How about WU's that use MORE ram?

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Pilgrim Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 3 Credit: 38,045 RAC: 0	Message 12181 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 4:49:49 UTC I have 1.5 GB of unused ram......even while running Rosetta......when will larger wu's requiring more ram be dispersed? ID: 12181 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0	Message 12182 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 4:53:44 UTC - in response to Message 12181. Last modified: 18 Mar 2006, 4:54:12 UTC I have 1.5 GB of unused ram......even while running Rosetta......when will larger wu's requiring more ram be dispersed? The project is designed to run in 512Mb or less to allow systems of that configuration to run the project. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 12182 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

David Baker Volunteer moderator Project administrator Project developer Project scientist Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 705 Credit: 559,847 RAC: 0	Message 12185 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 5:09:20 UTC - in response to Message 12181. I have 1.5 GB of unused ram......even while running Rosetta......when will larger wu's requiring more ram be dispersed? When we start distributing vaccine design calculations, these will require more memory. CASP7 is coming up first though. there may be some larger proteins where more memory is required. ID: 12185 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

R/B Send message Joined: 8 Dec 05 Posts: 195 Credit: 28,095 RAC: 0	Message 12206 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 21:28:43 UTC - in response to Message 12185. I have 1.5 GB of unused ram......even while running Rosetta......when will larger wu's requiring more ram be dispersed? When we start distributing vaccine design calculations, these will require more memory. CASP7 is coming up first though. there may be some larger proteins where more memory is required. I hope these different types of WU's will only be sent to machines with adequate memory? Founder of BOINC GROUP - Objectivists - Philosophically minded rational data crunchers. ID: 12206 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Angus Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0	Message 12214 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 22:30:03 UTC - in response to Message 12182. Last modified: 18 Mar 2006, 22:55:38 UTC The project is designed to run in 512Mb or less to allow systems of that configuration to run the project. I thought you had adamantly stated earlier (I'm sure I remember this...) that 512MB was the MINIMUM configuration - has this changed now? Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) ID: 12214 · Rating: -1 · rate: / Reply Quote

Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0	Message 12218 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 22:49:09 UTC - in response to Message 12214. The project is designed to run in 512Mb or less to allow systems of that configuration to run the project. I thought you had adamantly stated earlier (I'm sure I remember this...) that 512MB was the MINIMUM configuration - has this changed now? No. See this page. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 12218 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Angus Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0	Message 12219 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 22:58:58 UTC Last modified: 18 Mar 2006, 22:59:11 UTC So - is it 512MB or less, or 512MB or more (which is what "minimum' means)? Since you appear to speak for the project, perhaps you could clarify this. Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) ID: 12219 · Rating: -1 · rate: / Reply Quote

Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0	Message 12220 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 23:09:23 UTC - in response to Message 12219. So - is it 512MB or less, or 512MB or more (which is what "minimum' means)? Since you appear to speak for the project, perhaps you could clarify this. This page speaks for the project. It says "minimum requirements". The question here was, would WUs be made to use more memory. Everyone read the answer as indicating that increasing the memory would exclude more systems from running the project. I am truly sorry if this complicated concept continues to confuse you so I have provided the link to the proper information for you again. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 12220 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Angus Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 412 Credit: 321,053 RAC: 0	Message 12221 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 23:18:54 UTC The only confusion was about your statement that Rosetta would run in "512MB or less", when the obvious project minimum requirements were 512MB. That statement would mis-lead people into thinking that less than 512MB would be fine for running the project. Proudly Banned from Predictator@Home and now Cosmology@home as well. Added SETI to the list today. Temporary ban only - so need to work harder :) "You can't fix stupid" (Ron White) ID: 12221 · Rating: -1 · rate: / Reply Quote

Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0	Message 12222 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 23:22:30 UTC - in response to Message 12221. The only confusion was about your statement that Rosetta would run in "512MB or less", when the obvious project minimum requirements were 512MB. That statement would mis-lead people into thinking that less than 512MB would be fine for running the project. Well at least we finally agree that 512 is the minium supported memory configuration, and that systems with less may have problems running the project. Thank you for your assistance in clearing this up. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 12222 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

R/B Send message Joined: 8 Dec 05 Posts: 195 Credit: 28,095 RAC: 0	Message 12223 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 23:24:56 UTC 2 of my machines use 256 RAM and rarely have an error. I don't know if that is unusual or not. If it's not unusual I hope that fact is made clear to most new users. Founder of BOINC GROUP - Objectivists - Philosophically minded rational data crunchers. ID: 12223 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Moderator9 Volunteer moderator Send message Joined: 22 Jan 06 Posts: 1014 Credit: 0 RAC: 0	Message 12224 - Posted: 18 Mar 2006, 23:30:37 UTC - in response to Message 12223. 2 of my machines use 256 RAM and rarely have an error. I don't know if that is unusual or not. If it's not unusual I hope that fact is made clear to most new users. Systems with less than the supported 512Mb of memory do run the project as you have said. But there is a much higher error rate on them than systems with more memory. It is possible that this is the result of keeping applications in memory, which was suggested for Rosetta. This restraint is about to be fixed and that may change the dynamic some. In any case, examination of the errors would indicate that more memory is better. Moderator9 ROSETTA@home FAQ Moderator Contact ID: 12224 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote