I get the feeling from what I've seen on these message boards that the purpose is discuss subjects to death while never getting any closer to a solution on any of the issues.
Any time a way to deal with an issue in any sort of simple or rational way is suggested it is immediately turned upside down so that in the end nothing can be accomplished.
I've seen ideas that have merit from many people twisted into undoable options and that is the net result..nothing is accomplished..
I've followed many of the threads here for different reasons and the results seem to be the same. Either a flame war starts or anything of value that is brought up is twisted until it is useless.
I am intentionally not going into specifics as all that will serve is to create further problems when the focus should be solving issues.
In business, one sets a timetable for discussion and when that timeframe is reached, a decision is made and you go forward with it. If the decision is found later on not to be 100% perfect, you adjust and go on.
I watched a thread this evening where one of the participants had the basis for an excellent way to solve a problem. After several posts had been made following that idea, the topic was so far off course that the orginal idea was totally forgotten.
I am deeply devoted to the ideals and goals of what Dr. Baker is trying to do with Rosetta and support him 100% with all the equipment that I own and all that I have managed to bring to this by convincing others of it's potential benefits but any rational person who came to these so called discussions would be totally turned off by them.
I'm not looking for 45 responses to this, quite the opposite, just read it and think about it.
Thanks for your time,
Movieman

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My understanding (which may be wrong), is that a solution has already been thought-up and implemented on RALPH, and they're waiting until the end of CASP7 to implement it here.

So all the discussion and flame-wars here are somewhat moot...

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...flame-wars here are somewhat moot...

THIS is the point, regardless of the topic being discussed. Movieman, I hope you will note that until the past 6 weeks or so, the forums were very civil, constructive, informative and had a certain "esprit des corps" about them. I'm looking forward to the return of those days, and personally doing what I can to BE in those days. Hope everyone will do the same.

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Add this signature to your EMail:
Running Microsoft's "System Idle Process" will never help cure cancer, AIDS nor Alzheimer's. But running Rosetta@home just might!
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/

R@H's strength has been the involvement of the Bakerlab admins on these boards and the sense of inclusiveness it generates. Understandibily and properly during CASP7 that focus was preoccupied elsewhere and this may have been a factor. I'm not finding fault here, just an observation. I know things will return to 'normal' soon and the contentious issues will be resolved....Cheers,Rog.

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The bitterness is one of the reasons why I am mostly lurking now. I will continue to crunch, but I only drop in once in a while because I am tired of everyone complaining about imaginary numbers that don't mean anything to the science. It is funny, as in my mind it should be as simple as "his computer successfully crunched X targets, and that is his score".

Back to lurking...

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Just as frustrating is when the moderators delete an entire discussion because they have already made a decision.

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BOINC WIKI

Just as frustrating is when the moderators delete an entire discussion because they have already made a decision.

Just as an FYI - Mods don't have the ability to lock a thread. It's either delete a lot of posts or kill the whole thing. Not ideal I'll admit, which is why it isn't done often.

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