Problems and Technical Issues with Rosetta@home

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Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1862 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0	Message 112812 - Posted: 21 Jun 2025, 18:54:33 UTC - in response to Message 112811. If Rosetta is not comparing the results of one task to one run on another system how does it decide if something is "valid"? Rosetta@home Wiki. Completed results are sent to a central project server where they are validated and assimilated into project databases. Grant Darwin NT ID: 112812 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1246 Credit: 14,421,737 RAC: 0	Message 112815 - Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 0:05:30 UTC I'm often getting these error messages when I connect: Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /projects/boinc/rosetta/html/inc/user.inc on line 317 Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /projects/boinc/rosetta/html/inc/user.inc on line 321 Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /projects/boinc/rosetta/html/inc/user.inc on line 321 Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /projects/boinc/rosetta/html/inc/user.inc on line 322 Notice: Trying to get property of non-object in /projects/boinc/rosetta/html/inc/user.inc on line 326 ID: 112815 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1246 Credit: 14,421,737 RAC: 0	Message 112816 - Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 0:23:42 UTC If you try to reconnect to Einstein@Home to get got workunits. expect problems if you have lost access to the email server you used on such an account previously and ALSO have lost your previous password for Einstein@Home. Their recovery procedures can handle loss of one of the two, but not both. ID: 112816 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1862 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0	Message 112817 - Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 5:50:59 UTC - in response to Message 112815. Last modified: 25 Jun 2025, 5:51:57 UTC I'm often getting these error messages when I connect: What do you mean by connect? Attach to the Project? Grant Darwin NT ID: 112817 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 28 May 06 Posts: 98 Credit: 287,705 RAC: 10	Message 112818 - Posted: 25 Jun 2025, 15:59:26 UTC - in response to Message 112817. I'm often getting these error messages when I connect: What do you mean by connect? Attach to the Project? I think he's probably getting these messages when connecting to the website using web browser. If so, it's not anything to worry about, it's something the project administrator(s) need to fix in the web code. ID: 112818 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1246 Credit: 14,421,737 RAC: 0	Message 112819 - Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 1:01:03 UTC - in response to Message 112817. I'm often getting these error messages when I connect: What do you mean by connect? Attach to the Project? I mean log in so I can see if the project has fixed their Windows workunits. They have made the Windows versions of their workunits appear to be of very little value for the last few months. ID: 112819 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1862 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0	Message 112820 - Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 6:27:55 UTC - in response to Message 112819. I mean log in so I can see if the project has fixed their Windows workunits. FIxed them in what way? They have made the Windows versions of their workunits appear to be of very little value for the last few months. ??? The amount of Credit hasn't changed AFAIK for a given task on given computer. However much Credit you'd have got per Task 12 months ago, that's what you'd be getting now. Grant Darwin NT ID: 112820 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1862 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0	Message 112821 - Posted: 26 Jun 2025, 6:28:56 UTC - in response to Message 112818. I think he's probably getting these messages when connecting to the website using web browser. If so, it's not anything to worry about, it's something the project administrator(s) need to fix in the web code. So, like fixing all the all the server issues, something that will never happen... Grant Darwin NT ID: 112821 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Tom M Send message Joined: 20 Jun 17 Posts: 167 Credit: 33,779,428 RAC: 104,835	Message 112823 - Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 1:17:57 UTC - in response to Message 112818. Last modified: 28 Jun 2025, 1:18:26 UTC I'm often getting these error messages when I connect: What do you mean by connect? Attach to the Project? I think he's probably getting these messages when connecting to the website using web browser. If so, it's not anything to worry about, it's something the project administrator(s) need to fix in the web code. Those error messages look a lot like some of the website errors I have gotten on another project when updating a system profile on another (nameless) project. Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association) ID: 112823 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

robertmiles Send message Joined: 16 Jun 08 Posts: 1246 Credit: 14,421,737 RAC: 0	Message 112824 - Posted: 28 Jun 2025, 12:47:25 UTC - in response to Message 112820. Fixed them in running the intended work, rather than losing its path to it and running a default workunit instead. Getting credit is not what I'm trying for, but doing something to help medical research. ID: 112824 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1862 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0	Message 112826 - Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 0:30:59 UTC - in response to Message 112824. Fixed them in running the intended work, rather than losing its path to it and running a default workunit instead. I have absolutely no idea what you are going on about there. There are no default Work Units. The manager can only run the Task that is allocated to it and it has downloaded (unless you personally have some sort of Task Rescheduler, or do so manually). Each Task is unique (all those ending in _0)- the only ones that aren't are resends (eg _1, _2 etc) where the originally sent Task hasn't been returned or the returned Task was an Error or Invalid. Grant Darwin NT ID: 112826 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2386 Credit: 45,693,906 RAC: 24,251	Message 112827 - Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 0:56:41 UTC Just arrived home from 3 days away and found no tasks here. Did an update and received 8 tasks, but I'm getting lots of download errors in the form 29/06/2025 01:39:15 \| Rosetta@home \| Temporarily failed download of 12mrredo_12_hallucinated_174_206.zip: transient HTTP error Rebooted and no change Server status currently showing Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org Not Running So it's not me. I assume everyone else currently has the same problem? Who knows when this will be fixed... ID: 112827 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Grant (SSSF) Send message Joined: 28 Mar 20 Posts: 1862 Credit: 18,534,891 RAC: 0	Message 112828 - Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 1:03:42 UTC - in response to Message 112827. Server status currently showing Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org Not Running Well, there's a new issue to add to all the other existing issues. Grant Darwin NT ID: 112828 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

[CSF] Aleksey Belkov Send message Joined: 12 Apr 17 Posts: 4 Credit: 2,183,026 RAC: 2,756	Message 112829 - Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 1:06:31 UTC Last modified: 29 Jun 2025, 1:09:26 UTC It seems that someone from administrators of these hosts (fw1.ipd.uw.edu and fw2.ipd.uw.edu, which used to upload completed WUs via boinc-files.bakerlab.org) come up to disabling TLS 1.2 support, leaving only TLS 1.3, having clearly thought badly about their decision. :facepalm: So, those BOINC clients that rely on cryptographic libraries that do not support TLS 1.3 (for example, Schannel in Windows 10) cannot upload completed tasks or download new ones (since there are completed but not uploaded tasks in the queue). ID: 112829 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2386 Credit: 45,693,906 RAC: 24,251	Message 112830 - Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 11:02:54 UTC - in response to Message 112829. It seems that someone from administrators of these hosts (fw1.ipd.uw.edu and fw2.ipd.uw.edu, which used to upload completed WUs via boinc-files.bakerlab.org) come up to disabling TLS 1.2 support, leaving only TLS 1.3, having clearly thought badly about their decision. :facepalm: So, those BOINC clients that rely on cryptographic libraries that do not support TLS 1.3 (for example, Schannel in Windows 10) cannot upload completed tasks or download new ones (since there are completed but not uploaded tasks in the queue). Yes, Windows 10 here ID: 112830 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Bryn Mawr Send message Joined: 26 Dec 18 Posts: 424 Credit: 14,380,978 RAC: 19,701	Message 112831 - Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 13:04:20 UTC - in response to Message 112828. Server status currently showing Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org Not Running Well, there's a new issue to add to all the other existing issues. But, strangely, I’m still receiving downloads - latest at 12:31:30 UTC. On the other hand, I’m now getting a fair few CHI Angle invalid errors. ID: 112831 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2386 Credit: 45,693,906 RAC: 24,251	Message 112832 - Posted: 29 Jun 2025, 16:38:24 UTC - in response to Message 112827. Just arrived home from 3 days away and found no tasks here. Did an update and received 8 tasks, but I'm getting lots of download errors in the form 29/06/2025 01:39:15 \| Rosetta@home \| Temporarily failed download of 12mrredo_12_hallucinated_174_206.zip: transient HTTP error Rebooted and no change Server status currently showing Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org Not Running So it's not me. I assume everyone else currently has the same problem? Who knows when this will be fixed... I'm not having a lot of luck atm... 29/06/2025 17:37:05 \| World Community Grid \| Server error: feeder not running ID: 112832 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Sid Celery Send message Joined: 11 Feb 08 Posts: 2386 Credit: 45,693,906 RAC: 24,251	Message 112833 - Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 5:33:38 UTC - in response to Message 112832. Just arrived home from 3 days away and found no tasks here. Did an update and received 8 tasks, but I'm getting lots of download errors in the form 29/06/2025 01:39:15 \| Rosetta@home \| Temporarily failed download of 12mrredo_12_hallucinated_174_206.zip: transient HTTP error Rebooted and no change Server status currently showing Download server boinc-files.bakerlab.org Not Running So it's not me. I assume everyone else currently has the same problem? Who knows when this will be fixed... I'm not having a lot of luck atm... 29/06/2025 17:37:05 \| World Community Grid \| Server error: feeder not running Ok, so WCG has come back to life on this PC. I'm working again. I had a look at my laptop, which is Windows 11, updated Rosetta and a new task came down ok. I checked my other two remote PCs, which are both Windows 10 and they seem to be working too. So now I'm back thinking there is something wrong with my main PC, which is the one I recently installed a new disk on and had all those permission issues and Norton issues to sort out. It's been working fine for 3 weeks, but has now decided to have a problem that's Rosetta only and not WCG. I can't find any further issues in Norton and don't know if any permission issues are still causing a problem somewhere in the background. I'm stuck... ID: 112833 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

adrianxw Send message Joined: 18 Sep 05 Posts: 659 Credit: 12,118,668 RAC: 280	Message 112834 - Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 10:27:04 UTC - in response to Message 112833. Last modified: 30 Jun 2025, 10:29:45 UTC I had two work units stuck in download yesterday, and two more arrived this morning, so 8 files stuck at the moment. This machine is also running under Windows 10. Wave upon wave of demented avengers march cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream. ID: 112834 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote

Tom M Send message Joined: 20 Jun 17 Posts: 167 Credit: 33,779,428 RAC: 104,835	Message 112835 - Posted: 30 Jun 2025, 12:40:09 UTC - in response to Message 112833. Sid, No Rosetta stuck atm on my Ubuntu/Linux box. WCG started downloading again. The only idea(s) I have would be a completely fresh install of your Windows OS after backing up all your data. And/Or a Rosetta project reset? Proud member of the O.F.A. (Old Farts Association) ID: 112835 · Rating: 0 · rate: / Reply Quote