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Message 81399 - Posted: 3 Apr 2017, 21:17:35 UTC
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Please post issues/bugs regarding the minirosetta android version 3.83 application in this thread.
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Message 81402 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 14:34:17 UTC

It seems like there are lots of v3.73 tasks in the buffer at your end. I've seen no v3.83 even download yet.
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Message 81403 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 16:05:58 UTC - in response to Message 81399.  

Please post issues/bugs regarding the minirosetta android version 3.83 application in this thread.


And Android surpasses Windows

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Message 81404 - Posted: 4 Apr 2017, 17:46:17 UTC - in response to Message 81402.  

It seems like there are lots of v3.73 tasks in the buffer at your end. I've seen no v3.83 even download yet.


I'll take a look. So far the success rate is high and 3.83 results are coming in.
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Message 81405 - Posted: 5 Apr 2017, 0:02:07 UTC - in response to Message 81404.  
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It seems like there are lots of v3.73 tasks in the buffer at your end. I've seen no v3.83 even download yet.

I'll take a look. So far the success rate is high and 3.83 results are coming in.

Sorry, they were in progress. 2 tasks now completed, both with validation errors but not computation errors.

Is there a decoy limit of 600?

Strange looking output:

Device Samsung Android 6

res7_binoculars_binoculars_THR7_SAVE_ALL_OUT_477348_12_0
<core_client_version>7.4.53</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
======================================================
DONE :: 1 starting structures 13678.9 cpu seconds
This process generated 600 decoys from 600 attempts
======================================================
BOINC :: WS_max 0
18:54:49 (27853): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
]]>


Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 100.417950458479
Granted credit 100.417950458479
application version 3.83


res7_binoculars_binoculars_ALA7_SAVE_ALL_OUT_477332_13_0
<core_client_version>7.4.53</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<stderr_txt>
======================================================
DONE :: 1 starting structures 11638.6 cpu seconds
This process generated 600 decoys from 600 attempts
======================================================
BOINC :: WS_max 0
20:12:44 (27877): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
]]>


Validate state Invalid
Claimed credit 85.4439420464041
Granted credit 85.4439420464041
application version 3.83

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Message 81407 - Posted: 5 Apr 2017, 0:21:29 UTC
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Interesting. I'll check with the researcher who owns these jobs. Looks like the job created TOO MANY models so it failed validation.
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Message 81410 - Posted: 6 Apr 2017, 0:58:55 UTC

I updated the validator to hopefully address this issue.
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Message 81411 - Posted: 6 Apr 2017, 9:09:22 UTC - in response to Message 81410.  

I updated the validator to hopefully address this issue.

4 res6 tasks validated ok, including one that hit 600 decoys, after running the full time. One res7 task pulled up short again. Though I probably need to let a few more complete to give it a proper chance. Different tasks going through now.
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Message 81412 - Posted: 6 Apr 2017, 17:41:11 UTC - in response to Message 81411.  

I updated the validator to hopefully address this issue.

4 res6 tasks validated ok, including one that hit 600 decoys, after running the full time. One res7 task pulled up short again. Though I probably need to let a few more complete to give it a proper chance. Different tasks going through now.


I'll look into that one further. It should have been ok with the limits I set in the validator. thanks!
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Message 81415 - Posted: 8 Apr 2017, 0:09:36 UTC - in response to Message 81412.  

I updated the validator to hopefully address this issue.

4 res6 tasks validated ok, including one that hit 600 decoys, after running the full time. One res7 task pulled up short again. Though I probably need to let a few more complete to give it a proper chance. Different tasks going through now.


I'll look into that one further. It should have been ok with the limits I set in the validator. Thanks!

This was the specific res6 task
res6_binoculars_binoculars_DALA6_SAVE_ALL_OUT_477313_61_0
but it may've crossed with the time you made your update

The rest of my android tasks - res 6, res5 and 20res - all came in under 600 decoys and validated fine, so all looking good now.
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Message 86726 - Posted: 25 Jun 2017, 11:56:54 UTC

I think I can make my Huawei Y330 to work R@H, running 1 WU on 1 core, it's dual core, so that way will occupy 400MBx2 (base + 1 core WU) that's leaving like 400MB free for my use, but now I can't connect to R@H from it, tried like 10 times, even change my password, it just fails, can anyone help please

^ is from another thread

I can login from my phone to the website just fine. I did have BOINC client connected to R@H a few hours before with 2 threads running, so I think it's server side problem
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Message 86743 - Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 12:15:41 UTC

OK, another outage passed, WUs getting normally to my PC client and I can't even connect my Y330 to R@H, I guess is my fault since it's not possible since I reporteed it, well uninstalling from it and forgetting about it then, cheers
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Message 86744 - Posted: 26 Jun 2017, 12:32:22 UTC
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Another thing: my Tablet: Samsung Galaxy Tab4 10.1" screen, 4 Cores ARM v7 CPU, 1.5 GB RAM. R@H only work when the screen is on, the configuration doesn't have 'Protected Apps' section where you can specify to not close apps on standby mode, the onscreen manual is useless, some apps and games just run on the background as long as I don't close them properly, and I never close BOINC, I can see it it's on RAM but it won't run unless the screen is on, it says "Connect to a power source to continue processing", max on display timer is 30 mins, so it's not practical to check my tablet all the time.

I have lots of time free for my tablet always connected to the charger, and I'd like it put to a good use, imagine this replicated nx100,000 worldwide? you're losing lots of CPU power, also its GPU isn't give any WUs, another wasted computing potential
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Message 86756 - Posted: 27 Jun 2017, 14:06:31 UTC

Also please add the option to move the BOINC to and SD Card, or the WUs to be stored there, it's key for mobile devices, the PC version can direct the storage to a different partition/drive on installation time, BOINC for Android should on Preferences
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Message 86853 - Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 21:49:41 UTC

I have discovered why sometimes my device will stop processing even when connected to a power source, it's the way the Power Administrator works': when the power cable is connected, it doesn't take the power from it and give the rest to recharge the battery, it recharges the battery all the time and stops when it has reached 100%, so the device takes power from the battery all the time, so BOINC works in the slim range between 100% an what the Power Admin can detect as sub-100%, discharged battery that needs to be charged, so BOINC is stopping all the time at random times, losing valuable hours of processing time a day. Better Power Admin hardware should be developed for mobile devices.

Solution:
Set as BOINC default preference as:
1) to use all 4 energy sources
2) Set minimum battery level to 90%

This will give the 10% room that BOINC needs and probably will never pass.

But anyway please tell BOINC developers to add an option to prevent the Android/OS from stopping BOINC processing, 'keep alive' option, BOINC stops eventually, even when I have disabled the 'Power Saving' option and on Android versions that support it, added it to 'Protected Apps', that prevents apps from closing after the screen is off.
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Message 86854 - Posted: 25 Jul 2017, 22:55:20 UTC - in response to Message 86853.  
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I just found out that BOINC for Android won't process on battery even when configured so, please fix this. I e-malied to BOINC but I think it'd have more influence if you tell them to correct this "feature".

BOINC says: Computing will resume when battery charge increases to 90% (Currently 100%)
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Message 86855 - Posted: 26 Jul 2017, 5:40:48 UTC - in response to Message 86854.  

This can be done and it's not hard, it's old technology, I have 2 apps that use this, both are 2 years old and never fails, 1 is CPU Stats and Netowrk Mini, for now I'm using AndSY Apps
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Message 86879 - Posted: 30 Jul 2017, 0:03:59 UTC - in response to Message 86854.  

I just found out that BOINC for Android won't process on battery even when configured so, please fix this. I e-malied to BOINC but I think it'd have more influence if you tell them to correct this "feature".

BOINC says: Computing will resume when battery charge increases to 90% (Currently 100%)

That's very odd. My Samsung S6 runs on battery above my designated charge level
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Message 86968 - Posted: 4 Aug 2017, 12:07:18 UTC
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Every once in a while I've gotten a long runner, but recently I've gotten a higher percentage of them--12-24+ hours of CPU time even though preferences are set to 4 hours. Running on two android devices, they tend to get up to 98% or so and then creep along for many hours until completion. Credit is the same as if the task ran 4-5 hours of CPU time.
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Message 86970 - Posted: 4 Aug 2017, 14:18:42 UTC

The post from supdood was originally posted to
WUs estimated time way off to elapsed time
and was written from that context. But I felt it may be more related to Android than the specific WUs, so I moved it here.
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