Message boards : Number crunching : What's with this?
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Nite Owl Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 87 Credit: 3,019,449 RAC: 0 |
1/20/2006 11:16:49 PM|rosetta@home|Reason: To fetch work Preference = 300 (74%) Join the Teddies@WCG |
Divide Overflow Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 82 Credit: 921,382 RAC: 0 |
You have your computers hidden, so I can't be sure. It sounds like you returned a *LOT* of bad results from that machine, dropping your daily quota for that host down to just 2. The project won't let you have any more work until you return a valid result, which will double your daily quota each time. Each valid result returned from that host will double your daily quota. What is going on with that host?!? |
Nite Owl Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 87 Credit: 3,019,449 RAC: 0 |
You have your computers hidden, so I can't be sure. It sounds like you returned a *LOT* of bad results from that machine, dropping your daily quota for that host down to just 2. The project won't let you have any more work until you return a valid result, which will double your daily quota each time. Thanks Dave, I have had mucho grande bad results, on all 30 machines... I've driving myself nuts running around the house trying to get some viable work... About half my machines right now have work to crunch. Just how viable it is remains to be seen... |
Divide Overflow Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 82 Credit: 921,382 RAC: 0 |
Each valid result returned from that host will double your daily quota, so as soon as you get your problems sorted out, you should be back up to full quota again in next to no time. Good luck! |
Nite Owl Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 87 Credit: 3,019,449 RAC: 0 |
@Dave, I made my Computers visable so you could take a look... |
Divide Overflow Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 82 Credit: 921,382 RAC: 0 |
Wow! I wish I had that much computing power available... It certainly looks like this guy is having the most problems: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=53940 I see a lot of your computers have a download error for their bad WU's. Are you having connectivity problems? Did you change any proxy addressing recently? To answer your specific question, what's going on? When a host returns a result with errors, it's daily quota is reduced. This is done to prevent unattended rogue bad systems out there from draining the total number of WU's available to everybody. As soon as a system that was having temporary problems starts returning good results again, the quota avaialable to it doubles with each good result it returns. I can't tell what is causing you to return bad results at this point, but the download errors are a good clue to start from. |
Nite Owl Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 87 Credit: 3,019,449 RAC: 0 |
If you look at a few more machines you'll there's others that have had more bad results.... Both download and during processing.... I use to be in 11 place in the stats with over 5900 RAC. I started dropping like I was pole axed, so I upgraded my wireless router and got a new, faster two way satellite adapter and service (DW7000) with Professional software, to see whether that was the problem or not.... It wasn't... Evidently your files are too sensitive and can't handle the trip to the satellite and back! Join the Teddies@WCG |
Nite Owl Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 87 Credit: 3,019,449 RAC: 0 |
If you look at a few more machines you'll there's others that have had more bad results.... Both download and during processing.... I use to be in 11 place in the stats with over 5900 RAC. I started dropping like I was pole axed, so I upgraded my wireless router and got a new, faster two way satellite adapter and service (DW7000) with Professional software, to see whether that was the problem or not.... It wasn't... Evidently your files are too sensitive and can't handle the trip to the satellite and back! Here is an example of a download error: Notice the percentage received? 1267.47%? No wonder it fails... 99.9% of everything connected to FATSA is just about guaranteed to fail, after all other associated files have downloaded, although that particular job was replaced with another 1n0u with a FASTA file (the 00.1%) and it downloaded fine... Join the Teddies@WCG |
Snake Doctor Send message Joined: 17 Sep 05 Posts: 182 Credit: 6,401,938 RAC: 0 |
Nite Owl, I just stumbled on this thread, and took a quick look at some of the errors you are getting. Correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like you are running BOINC client 5.2.6. If so you may need to upgrade for R@H. A lot of us were getting similar errors running versions of the BOINC client below 5.2.8. At this point the "blessed" version is 5.2.13. 5.2.8 solved some of the problems you are seeing. but 5.2.13 is better. In my experience 5.2.13 is a bit more stable but I am running the GUI version so I can't speak to CLI or menubar versions. With the number of machines you have you may want to just pick the one having the most trouble and try upgrading that one first. Some of the fixes in 5.2.13 were for downloading issues. Your mileage may vary. You may already know this but you may want to drain your queue before turning off BOINC or any WUS you have may abort making your problems worse. Let us know how this turns out for you. The errors you are seeing are similar to some I have seen before and the project folks are working on that specific problem. Regards Phil We Must look for intelligent life on other planets as, it is becoming increasingly apparent we will not find any on our own. |
Nite Owl Send message Joined: 2 Nov 05 Posts: 87 Credit: 3,019,449 RAC: 0 |
I have version 5.2.13 running on most of the problem machines already... Read somewhere that if you have a problem use .13... so I did... Thanks for your reply SD... <waves> Join the Teddies@WCG |
FluffyChicken Send message Joined: 1 Nov 05 Posts: 1260 Credit: 369,635 RAC: 0 |
No harm in trying 5.2.15 either Link including 5.2.15 Although I see nothing in the changelog that may help you :( (probably as I don't know what's causing the problem :D Changes since 5.2.14 Use curl error messages for network errors. Maybe more useful information will be displayed than what was previously displayed. Fixed another problem which could prevent BOINC Manager from connecting to core client. Mac only: we are now building with newer tools and libraries: XCode 2.2, WxWidgets 2.6.2, libcurl 7.15.1. Mac only: in anticipation of Intel-based Macs, the Mac BOINC Manager package name now specifies the cpu architecture: boinc_5.2.15_macOSX_powerpc.zip. Changes since 5.2.13 The manager should now correctly detect if the core client is currently running on the machine. Mac: Only administrators can attach to a new project (for improved security). Mac: No longer crashes if there is a space character in the path to BOINCManager. Team mauisun.org |
Astro Send message Joined: 2 Oct 05 Posts: 987 Credit: 500,253 RAC: 0 |
Dr. David Anderson posted a email about the Alpha testing of 5.2.15, here part of it is. David Anderson to boinc_alpha More options Jan 17 (5 days ago) Testing of 5.2.15 is complete (I think - is it, Rom?) It didn't pass. |
AMD_is_logical Send message Joined: 20 Dec 05 Posts: 299 Credit: 31,460,681 RAC: 0 |
Here is an example of a download error: My guess is that there is some software on your systems that has inserted itself between the boinc program and the internet. It lets .gz files through, but runs .fasta files through some filter which messes things up. Perhaps this software can be told to let .fasta files through without altering them. |
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