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Message 50555 - Posted: 10 Jan 2008, 23:41:59 UTC - in response to Message 50554.  

Have you researched the Sklyarov matter?

Apparently, the United States government would seem to disagree with you, to wit:

US law CAN apply outside the US.


That is one of the "interesting" things about Sklyarov's arrest.


I am not saying that I agree with such a position of the US government, only that the US government disagrees with your position.


No, I have not researched it, I must confess. However, many large companies (including Microsoft) have been trying to shut down 'The Pirate Bay', citing, the millennium act and endlessly threatening with law suits. They have failed because Pirate Bay simply replies (usually in a childish and vulgar manner) that it doesn't apply in Sweden. Maybe it works in Russia, because Russia doesn't have much of a justice system?


Regardless, Rosetta *is* in the US, so unless you can talk UW into moving to Sweden, this probably isn't going to happen.
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Message 50556 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 0:25:30 UTC - in response to Message 50554.  
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Have they really "failed" ?


From Wikipedia:

"On May 31, 2006, the site's servers, located in Stockholm, were raided by Swedish police, causing it to be offline for three days.

The raid, alleged to be politically motivated and under pressure from the MPAA...

Swedish prosecutors have announced that charges will be filed before the end of January 2008 against five individuals concerned."



have been trying to shut down 'The Pirate Bay', citing, the millennium act and endlessly threatening with law suits. They have failed because Pirate Bay simply replies (usually in a childish and vulgar manner) that it doesn't apply in Sweden.
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Message 50567 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 13:15:38 UTC - in response to Message 50556.  
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Have they really "failed" ?


From Wikipedia:

"On May 31, 2006, the site's servers, located in Stockholm, were raided by Swedish police, causing it to be offline for three days.

The raid, alleged to be politically motivated and under pressure from the MPAA...

Swedish prosecutors have announced that charges will be filed before the end of January 2008 against five individuals concerned."


Yes, they have really failed. the raid was a big embarrassment to the swedish police, and they found nothing they could use in it. Pirate bay has been threatened constantly with legal charges since it was created, to no effect.

Regardless, Rosetta *is* in the US, so unless you can talk UW into moving to Sweden, this probably isn't going to happen.


good point.
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Message 50568 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 13:43:13 UTC - in response to Message 50567.  

What about this part, January 2008 is not yet over:

"Swedish prosecutors have announced that charges will be filed before the end of January 2008 against five individuals concerned."


Have they really "failed" ?


From Wikipedia:

"On May 31, 2006, the site's servers, located in Stockholm, were raided by Swedish police, causing it to be offline for three days.

The raid, alleged to be politically motivated and under pressure from the MPAA...

Swedish prosecutors have announced that charges will be filed before the end of January 2008 against five individuals concerned."


Yes, they have really failed. the raid was a big embarrassment to the swedish police, and they found nothing they could use in it. Pirate bay has been threatened constantly with legal charges since it was created, to no effect.

Regardless, Rosetta *is* in the US, so unless you can talk UW into moving to Sweden, this probably isn't going to happen.


good point.

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Message 50569 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 13:55:18 UTC - in response to Message 50568.  

What about this part, January 2008 is not yet over:

"Swedish prosecutors have announced that charges will be filed before the end of January 2008 against five individuals concerned."


I guess we'll know by the end of January, but like i said, this is nothing new. They've been under these kind of threats constantly, and they've been completely empty so far. They haven't had a leg to stand on, and no laws have changed, so I doubt they do now.

Most religions have been preaching Armageddon will come within a few years throughout history, why should one start taking them seriously now?


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Message 50584 - Posted: 11 Jan 2008, 20:06:53 UTC - in response to Message 50569.  
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We're getting way OT here.

But the point remains: if a DC Project had to make a decision to select, from a legal / liability perspective, either the the MS xBox or Sony PS/3 to port its code to, the choice is clearly the PS/3.

Don't misunderstand me, while I own two ps/3's, IF there was also a way to bring the xBox into DC, great !!! We could use all the horsepower possible.

But at the present time, for this and other reasons already discussed, any effort is best expended on the PS/3, not the xBox.


Most religions have been preaching Armageddon will come within a few years throughout history, why should one start taking them seriously now?
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Message 50866 - Posted: 21 Jan 2008, 14:59:06 UTC
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Real story of Xbox 360 RRODs outed

Xbox 360
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer has a very interesting interview with someone close to the RROD failures that the Xbox 360 has suffered since its earliest incarnation.

On failure rates the source states: "It's around 30p er cent, and all will probably fail early. This quarter they are expecting a million failures, most of those Xenons. Some of those are repeat failures. Life expectancy is all over the map because the design has very little margin for most of the important parameters." Xenon was the code-name for the first motherboard design used in the system.

Regarding quality assurance, the insider doesn't fill us with any more confidence. "MS has under resourced that product unit in all engineering areas since the very beginning. Especially in engineering support functions like test, quality, manufacturing, and supplier management." It continues: "MS was so focused on beating Sony this cycle that the 360 was rushed to market when all indications were that it had serious flaws. The design qual testing was insufficient and incomplete when the product was released to production."

The source also spoke about the newer designs, giving more cause for concern: "I've heard that the failure rates for the current design is sub 10 per cent. Much much better, but still too high."

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Message 51042 - Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 13:26:00 UTC - in response to Message 50569.  

@agge

Swedish police charge Pirate Bay


What about this part, January 2008 is not yet over:

"Swedish prosecutors have announced that charges will be filed before the end of January 2008 against five individuals concerned."


I guess we'll know by the end of January, but like i said, this is nothing new. They've been under these kind of threats constantly, and they've been completely empty so far. They haven't had a leg to stand on, and no laws have changed, so I doubt they do now.

Most religions have been preaching Armageddon will come within a few years throughout history, why should one start taking them seriously now?


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Message 51049 - Posted: 28 Jan 2008, 19:38:06 UTC - in response to Message 51042.  

nothing new here... still only 'plans', just like they've claimed to be doing for years. No laws have changed and, to me, it seems that the charges have less chance of being succesful now than ever. Public opinion is shifting in favour of 'piracy', and several people in the governing party are publicly against anti-piracy laws.
Before the elecion, the prime minister stated that "you can't lable an enire generation criminals"
I bet you 10 000 rosetta credits that nothing will come of this.
Perhaps we should continue this issue in the non-science section though.


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Message 51542 - Posted: 21 Feb 2008, 17:23:06 UTC

From the BBC (Darren Waters 19 Feb 08, 02:41 GMT ):

Red ring of death returns

Microsoft wants consumers to believe that its problems with the Xbox 360 console in terms of hardware failure are over.

But wandering through the Game Developers Conference halls and it's clear that the problem persists.

On Microsoft's own stand at the show one of the demo consoles has a rather familiar problem - the red ring of death. There's no way of knowing if this particular console was manufactured before or after Microsoft identified the problems with the machines.

But at the very least it's embarrassing for the company that its own stock of demo machines are still susceptible to the problem.



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Message 52227 - Posted: 4 Apr 2008, 8:01:48 UTC
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Any new news on this subject? It's been over TWO years since this was announced.

Lets try to stay on topic here guys.
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Message 67661 - Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 15:31:15 UTC - in response to Message 52227.  

Any new news on this subject? It's been over TWO years since this was announced.

Lets try to stay on topic here guys.



4 years now
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Message 67664 - Posted: 9 Sep 2010, 18:52:00 UTC - in response to Message 39884.  
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normally consoles are idle for far less time than PCs... so I'm not sure if they'll reach the deadline


I run Rosetta in the background on my PC constantly with no (major) loss of speed, etc. Given the sheer processing power of the 360, surely this could be applied also?


I do the same (except when I'm running some games where the performance hit is quite noticeable), but I had to install a water block on my i7 because my CPU (with the stock cooler) would eventually overheat after a couple of hours of running at 100% load, and another large heatsink on my motherboard made installing an aftermarket air cooler impractical.

The 360 has a pretty high failure rate already, mostly due to heat issues. I hear it's gotten a lot better in the last couple years but I'm still not entirely sure telling millions of 360 users to leave their consoles on 24/7 at 100% is necessarily a good idea.
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