Toshiba Satellite Centrino Duo hanging with LARS

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Message 28144 - Posted: 22 Sep 2006, 4:16:21 UTC

running windows XP pro SP 2, using Genuine Intel CPU T2300 @1.66 GHz (centrino duo processor), 0.99 GB RAM, 80 GB HD. I am running rosetta on a desktop, P4 HT, and another laptop (the original centrino processor), and neither of these computers experience this problem. All are using Win XP pro.

I've noticed my toshiba very frequently will "hang" (I've read all the FAQ about hanging, mine has 0 CPU usage when it says it's running and both WU that are running have hung). When I try to click the show graphics button, that window hangs and when I try to close, windows always says generic "not responding, click end now blah blah." When this happens, the rosetta work unit shows computational error and is finally able to start on a new task. I've also noticed it will hang for very long periods of time without realizing it (like the watchdog thread or whatever it was called does not seem to catch the problem). The problems seem to occur most frequently on the tasks involving LARS computations, but both my other computers have no problems with this.

I have the most recent BOINC client and rosetta.

It's a bit of a hassle to frequently have to manually get boinc to realize the tasks have hung (click show graphics, then end task) so it can start on another task)

Hopefully a workaround will be found & posted soon
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Message 28159 - Posted: 22 Sep 2006, 8:22:02 UTC

What Toshiba laptop model is it? (it maybe a graphics card driver problem).

Also could you test if the newer (though still in development) versions of BOINC solve this?
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/download_all.php?min_version=5.0&dev=1
v5.6.4 at time of writing

(Best to copy the whole of the BOINC directory so you can just copy it back if it doesn't)



I see this as the error for one of your failed tasks (in case others a reading)

<core_client_version>5.4.11</core_client_version>
<message>
 - exit code 1073807364 (0x40010004)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
# random seed: 1425072
# cpu_run_time_pref: 10800


Unhandled Exception Detected...

- Unhandled Exception Record -
Reason: Access Violation (0xc0000005) at address 0x7C913C98 read attempt to address 0x00040004

Engaging BOINC Windows Runtime Debugger...


</stderr_txt>

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Message 28957 - Posted: 6 Oct 2006, 3:30:22 UTC - in response to Message 28159.  

Toshiba Satellite U205-S5002 laptop

It does not have an actual graphics card (separate from motherboard)---rather, it has integrated video. It's a distinct possibility---the graphics drivers causing conflicts---one note, this laptop will not run the new Half Life 2 steam games (like episode 1, etc.)---the message it gives is that my graphics card driver not recognized/supported. However, I believe the graphics may only be a side issue (unless it computes the graphics continually even when the screen saver is not displayed or the graphics button pressed---because it hangs BEFORE I press the show graphics (this is just a method I found of causing the boinc client to realize that the computation was screwing up & start on a new one).


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Message 29032 - Posted: 8 Oct 2006, 11:26:23 UTC - in response to Message 28957.  

Toshiba Satellite U205-S5002 laptop

It does not have an actual graphics card (separate from motherboard)---rather, it has integrated video. It's a distinct possibility---the graphics drivers causing conflicts---one note, this laptop will not run the new Half Life 2 steam games (like episode 1, etc.)---the message it gives is that my graphics card driver not recognized/supported. However, I believe the graphics may only be a side issue (unless it computes the graphics continually even when the screen saver is not displayed or the graphics button pressed---because it hangs BEFORE I press the show graphics (this is just a method I found of causing the boinc client to realize that the computation was screwing up & start on a new one).



Well certain parts are loaded, (Intel 950 integrated by the way). I think only running as a service stops the graphics...


The developer version of BOINC does have improved due core/processor things, not sure what bu worth a try, though others would surely have seen this.

You could also update to the latest Intel drivers to make sure
http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/sb/CS-020683.htm


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Message 29068 - Posted: 9 Oct 2006, 4:42:01 UTC

I will throw my 2 cents in and say that running two Rosetta WUs on a duo laptop with 1gig of memory is a no no, especially if the graphics are on the mobo.
You will not have enough memory, my Duo has about 418 megs available and it is recommended to have 256 megs free per Wu......
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Message 29172 - Posted: 11 Oct 2006, 16:55:37 UTC - in response to Message 29068.  

I will throw my 2 cents in and say that running two Rosetta WUs on a duo laptop with 1gig of memory is a no no, especially if the graphics are on the mobo.
You will not have enough memory, my Duo has about 418 megs available and it is recommended to have 256 megs free per Wu......



Actually it should be fine for the sze of the workunits.
With 1G you have 512Mb per core available.

Current tasks are taking less than 100Mb at the moment.
Hence plenty :-)
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