I am new to Rosetta, so sorry for the noob question.
I have started crunching on rosetta only to find the first unit to be finished in half the time then the next unit the time was going up even after 3 hours. I binned this unit, copied the contents of the Boinc folder.
I then uninstalled boinc then reinstalled. Boinc then started downloading new wu's and its been on this since.
I thought I would leave it alone and get on with it. Now the estimated time is 6 hours to complete the WU, time spent so far 7 hours with 8hours estimated to finish!!!

Any ideas?

Hi and welcome to Rosetta

What are your settings for "Target CPU run time" in "Rosetta@home preferences" ?

Anders n

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Hi and welcome to Rosetta

What are your settings for "Target CPU run time" in "Rosetta@home preferences" ?

Anders n

Thanks for the reply, I have had no problems when running seti,


Resource share
100

Percentage of CPU time used for graphics not selected
Number of frames per second for graphics not selected
Target CPU run time 1 day

Straight off the page!

Ebola Bob, I think you are just observing the initial calibrations that BOINC does. Rosetta's default runtime is 3hrs, and so the tasks are shipped to indicate they will probably take 3hrs to run. But they will ACTUALLY take approximately the length of time specified in your runtime preference. After BOINC has crunched a few tasks it will learn that 24hrs is your normal runtime. But before it has had that opportunity to learn, it's estimates are poor.

Do not presume that a poor runtime estimate is any indication of something going wrong with the task. Rosetta's watchdog will do the worry for you.

I see you aborted a task after 29,211 seconds, but that is nowhere near your 24hr runtime preference. Go ahead and let one run for the day you've specified. By the end of that time it will mark itself complete and report the results back.

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Ebola Bob, I think you are just observing the initial calibrations that BOINC does. Rosetta's default runtime is 3hrs, and so the tasks are shipped to indicate they will probably take 3hrs to run. But they will ACTUALLY take approximately the length of time specified in your runtime preference. After BOINC has crunched a few tasks it will learn that 24hrs is your normal runtime. But before it has had that opportunity to learn, it's estimates are poor.

Do not presume that a poor runtime estimate is any indication of something going wrong with the task. Rosetta's watchdog will do the worry for you.

I see you aborted a task after 29,211 seconds, but that is nowhere near your 24hr runtime preference. Go ahead and let one run for the day you've specified. By the end of that time it will mark itself complete and report the results back.

Willco!!

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I have tried every which way to download wu on the amd box and had no luck whatsoever. I always get:

23/05/2007 09:04:02|rosetta@home|Sending scheduler request: To fetch work
23/05/2007 09:04:02|rosetta@home|Requesting 129600 seconds of new work
23/05/2007 09:04:07|rosetta@home|Scheduler RPC succeeded [server version 509]
23/05/2007 09:04:07|rosetta@home|Message from server: No work sent
23/05/2007 09:04:07|rosetta@home|Message from server: (there was work but you don't have enough disk space allocated)
23/05/2007 09:04:07|rosetta@home|Message from server: Not enough disk space (only 81.8 MB free for BOINC). Review preferences for minimum disk free space allowed.

I have a 250Gig HD is this what is causing the problems? The other cruncher has a 6Gig HD and I have no problems with it. I am going to put the os on a 4Gig HD I have lying about see if the problem goes!

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What are your settings for "Leave at least" free memory in General preferences?

Anders n

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What are your settings for "Leave at least" free memory in General preferences?

Anders n

The message is about disk space, not memory. Check your General Preferences for the "location" this computer is configured for, there is a group of values for how much disk BOINC is allowed to use. You can then look in your BOINC Manager at the disk tab of the advanced view and see what you've got out there on your machine.

Bottom line is that BOINC is trying to live with limits that you have configured.

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What are your settings for "Leave at least" free memory in General preferences?

Anders n

The message is about disk space, not memory. Check your General Preferences for the "location" this computer is configured for, there is a group of values for how much disk BOINC is allowed to use. You can then look in your BOINC Manager at the disk tab of the advanced view and see what you've got out there on your machine.

Bottom line is that BOINC is trying to live with limits that you have configured.

Oups took the wrong word in "Disk and memory usage"

Still "Leave at least" is only for Disk:)

My settings for the last 1,5 year is as follows.

Use at most 40 GB disk space
Leave at least (Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.001 GB disk space free
Use at most 40% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 180 seconds
Use at most 85% of page file (swap space)


They have worked all the time.

Anders n

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My settings are:

Use at most 100 Gbytes
Leave at least .001 Gbytes free
Use at most 50% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 500seconds
Use at most 90% of page file (swap space)
Use at most 85% of memory when computer is in use
Use at most 100% of memory when computer is idle

Whatever settings I use, it is always "only 80-85MB free for boinc"

my other machine will dl rosetta, but not the one I want to use.

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how about the disk ?

Ány numbers on how much there are on it?

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how about the disk ?

Ány numbers on how much there are on it?

On the disk page of boinc manager:

Free space 215GB
Used by boinc 3.77MB
Used by other programs 17.49GB

Used by rosetta 0B
Used by seti 3.77MB

I have uninstalled and reinstalled to no avail. I dont want to run rosetta on the intel machine as it used twice the time for less than half the credit. I cannot see what else I can do. :(

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As you start BOINC, there are messages which indicate which venue this machine is considered to be located at. For example:

5/23/2007 8:44:40 PM||General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2007-05-21 15:22:52)
5/23/2007 8:44:40 PM||Host location: home
5/23/2007 8:44:40 PM||General prefs: using separate prefs for home


Have you examined the General Preferences for the proper location?
What are the resource shares between Rosetta and Seti?

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As you start BOINC, there are messages which indicate which venue this machine is considered to be located at. For example:

5/23/2007 8:44:40 PM||General prefs: from rosetta@home (last modified 2007-05-21 15:22:52)
5/23/2007 8:44:40 PM||Host location: home
5/23/2007 8:44:40 PM||General prefs: using separate prefs for home


Have you examined the General Preferences for the proper location?
What are the resource shares between Rosetta and Seti?

25/05/2007 10:26:14|rosetta@home|URL: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/; Computer ID: 502957; location: school; project prefs: default

Resource share
If you participate in multiple BOINC projects, this is the proportion of your resources used by Rosetta@home 200
Should Rosetta@home send you email newsletters?
Emails will be sent from Rosetta/BOINC Admin ; make sure your spam filter accepts this address. yes
Should Rosetta@home show your computers on its web site? yes
Default computer location school
Percentage of CPU time used for graphics not selected
Number of frames per second for graphics not selected
Target CPU run time 6 hours


Do work while computer is running on batteries?
(matters only for portable computers) no
Do work while computer is in use? yes
Do work only between the hours of (no restriction)
Leave applications in memory while suspended?
(suspended applications will consume swap space if 'yes') no
Switch between applications every
(recommended: 60 minutes) 60 minutes
On multiprocessors, use at most 2 processors
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.6 and greater 100 percent of CPU time
Disk and memory usage
Use at most 100 GB disk space
Leave at least
(Values smaller than 0.001 are ignored) 0.001 GB disk space free
Use at most 50% of total disk space
Write to disk at most every 500 seconds
Use at most 75% of page file (swap space)
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8 and greater 60% of memory when computer is in use
Use at most
Enforced by version 5.8 and greater 100% of memory when computer is idle
Network usage
Connect to network about every
(determines size of work cache; maximum 10 days) 3 days
Confirm before connecting to Internet?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Disconnect when done?
(matters only if you have a modem, ISDN or VPN connection) no
Maximum download rate: no limit
Maximum upload rate: no limit
Use network only between the hours of
Enforced by versions 4.46 and greater (no restriction)
Skip image file verification?
Check this ONLY if your Internet provider modifies image files (UMTS does this, for example).
Skipping verification reduces the security of BOINC. no

and its split 80% rosetta 20% seti.

Hope you can find the problem in there!

Bob

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So, are those your preferences for "default"? or "school"?

The machine is following the preferences for "school" for BOINC General Preferences. And "Default" for Rosetta. And, just to confirm, did the host update to the project successfully to see these new settings?

...if that is what you were thinking all along, then you've got me stumped. I would suggest posting to the Number Crunching forum where more eyes will see what you are describing.

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This is a from Einstein message board.

Ageless Wrote

Anyway, what seems to fix it for other people who have tried just about everything, is put the projects to No New Tasks, run the remaining cache dry, report all results, exit BOINC, uninstall BOINC, delete the BOINC directory and all sub directories, reinstall BOINC clean and re-attach to the projects.

I know it's a long and tedious way around what could be a bug in BOINC.
Then again, it could be that there's something stuck in one of the projects folders that's taking up quite some space. A total start-over clears that.

HTH

Anders n

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No new tasks it is then.

Thanks for your time and I will let you know what happens...

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No new tasks it is then.

Thanks for your time and I will let you know what happens...

Oh dear, did the above and dl 20 tasks, I thought woohoo.
Every one has an unrecoverable error. :(

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No new tasks it is then.

Thanks for your time and I will let you know what happens...

Oh dear, did the above and dl 20 tasks, I thought woohoo.
Every one has an unrecoverable error. :(

Looks like a bad batch.

Luckely they error out fast :)

AND finaly some downloading ;)

Hope you get some new and working soon.

Anders n

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Working Aok, massive thanks for all the help and time sorting this out. I was just about to give up!!!

Cheers!

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